I agree that a teacher should have an investment in all their students. For that to be true, then those students AND their parents should have an investment in this country. If they are here legally, there is no problem with them attending college. Everyone who is in this country legally is entitled to the same chance at higher education as everyone else. The key to this situation is that the students and their parents need to do whatever it takes to become a citizen of the US and the doors to college and jobs and whatever else they may desire will be theirs. Mr. Cooper, get out of that rally and back into the classroom. Tell those students who you think are being treated unfairly what they have to do to become citizens. When they do, your dream will come true.

When my youngest went to College Park, someone that he knew from PA paid a considerable amount more to attend College Park than what he paid.

Are we saying that a person living in MD illegally has more rights than a citizen from PA?

If we are, that something is really wrong. Sign up to be a legal citizen, otherwise, don't complain about America giving you a lifestyle that evidently affords you more food, clothing and housing than the country you have left.

Some people don't want to become US citizens......and that's their right.

Those students and their families have been paying MD taxes haven't they? The kid from Pennsyltucky hasn't. MD is a State school.

The history of America is hate is heaped on the newest wave of immigrants by the old immigrants that forget their history and humanity.

If your going to start treating everybody fairly why not start with legal citizens? If it doesn't cost any more to teach someone from out of state why charge them more? Hey now that we're on a role why not get rid of all coercive unfair pricing? But how would the government manipulate the population without coercive financial practices? So as long as everything is unfair lets not pick and choose who to treat fairly.

They do not have equal rights. They are ILLEGAL.
Arrest and deport all illegal aliens.

Rewarding bad or illegal behavior will get your more bad or illegal behavior. The teacher unfortunately lives in a very sheltered world. A private sector job for a few months would help him a bit.

When the economy and the stock market tanks and jobs completely dry up under the weight of the debt and pension bombs, those responsible for passing the buck will be exposed. In the meantime, make sure you are not caught holding the bag - investments that will blow up when this happens.

Mr Cooper I understand you being a teacher you want to see ALL children have a fair chance at a education.Fairness needs to start in the Elementary level where we have 2 types of school. We have Title 1 and non-Title 1 schools. In Title 1 schools,which is based on how many low income students are enrolled receive MANY educational tools,programs, supplies and extra paid positions. In a non-Title 1 school they don't see these things at all(its not in the budget). So before you want to allow illegal citizens a FAIR education, maybe you should use your energy and RALLY for OUR KIDS who belong here. A child's education should NOT be based on how much money their parents make or don't make.
If you ever get a chance to go into a Title 1 and a non-Title 1 school you will be so amazed at the difference in equipment,technology, programs,supplies and extra positions there are.Most parents have NO idea that this is going on and for some what there children are missing.Actually it is sad,and YOU WANT TO RALLY FOR ILLEGALS TO HAVE A FAIR EDUCATION WHEN OUR OWN DON"T GET A FAIR EDUCATION

The teacher doesn't understand that a person can come to the US, get citizenship, and buy a house. Then...

This person (lets call him Uncle Sam) came from a war torn country. Uncle Sam knows people that have money back in his old country. These rich people Uncle Sam knows have 2 kids (let's call them Jack and Jill).

The parents send Jack and Jill to live with Uncle Sam in the good old USA. Uncle Sam gets custody of Jack and Jill through our Baltimore County Court system (because you have to have custody to register your kids).

The parents pay Uncle Sam big bucks to house, feed and see that Jack and Jill get to school. Uncle Sam doesn't have a job in the US and the only tax Uncle Sam is paying is on his house because Uncle Sam's money comes from the rich parents that live in the war torn country.

I would say Jack and Jill are lucky not to still live in their war torn country, except that Uncle Sam is a really mean man and that causes Jack and Jill to see the social worker at school. Actually Uncle Sam gets a few more kids and now his basement is really filling up with kids that he sends to school here in the good ole USA.

Uncle Sam is lucky too because now his house is paid off (remember Jack and Jill's parents are rich) and he/Uncle Sam is buying his second house and gosh he has only been in the USA 1 year.

Why don't we just have a magnet USA like some of our schools? Money from that country/parent would go to the school. Could be a way to create jobs.

The teacher is simply right.

simply right ? about what ? about its ok to support crime? I bet you would want the law enfoced if some one broke in to your property or bank account?

I bet this teacher never studied the constitution,,,,,,,, as an american Im am granted certain inalieable rights, but if Im not a citizen I am not,,,,,,,,,what does this teacher want a lawless society,change the law, but until then respect .......... thats a slap on every immigrant that came over here ( the right way) joined the armed forces and defended this country in all the wars,as a desendant of one I resent that
my dad served in the USMC saw action in the south pacfic went to law schollon the "GI bill " worked at night at bethelem Steel was it all in vain ? ( Iknow many other american families have the same roots......... either be one of is or dont co here , my Italian grandmother made sure my dad learned the language close the border ,,,,,,,,,, apply legally,,,,,,,,,, "stop breaking in our house "

According to Wiki.."In the U.S., 11-20 million undocumented immigrants have very low chances of being deported and only a very small fraction of employers that hire them are ever penalized."

That's a lot of people in a country that has unemployment problems, too many of their own children in foster homes not getting raised properly, medical costs off the charts so much so that our senior citizens can't afford good doctors.

Yet we have such deep pockets Fifa and Mr. Cooper think we have more to give away. If these kids are already in our schools and the parents qualify for a free and reduced lunch...well looks like we are already footing the bill for food which comes out of my property tax. Where does it stop?

So sick of this issue and ridiculous debate! This "teacher" had better watch his step regarding mixing his personal politics with his job as a public school teacher or he will become one more member of the"Jobless in MD" club. I also love the statement that "most" Marylanders are in favor of DREAM - we'll see in November. If the kids want to go to college and can't afford out of state rates, they can get loans just like the rest of us that are struggling to afford the cost of higher education. This is just another incentive for illegals to enter the state and further strain the system. If the are folks out there who want to assist these kids with school, they could easily start a nonprofit with the mission of sending illegals to college - all of the so called Marylanders who favor the act can send in their checks to support the kids and leave the tax payers out of it.

We the People of the United States (they aren't of the United States). So does that mean our President can be born anywhere and not a citizen? Don't think so.

if there were no perceived borders there would be no border wars....just human beings living together, freely on the planet with peace and harmony for all...just say no to borders... all human beings were created equally.....I know, I know...

Steve...love the way you try to put a :"spin" on the Constitution regarding We The People....sorry honey child, just won't work!!!

Lorna's Anthem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cvLeQbwuKys

Ah darling Steve...you are still the die-hard bigoted racist little angel I remember so well in other threads. Come on now, honey child, put that "race" care away and lets get down to business, shall we? I made my statement, see if you can follow up by staying on task.

Ooops....typo - should be race "card"...hit the e rather than the d...Now Steve..don't make something out of it. Stay on task remember?

Yes, I know Buck, being a "perfectionist" can be so very stressful!...... :-)

Oh FIFA, honey child, you would not understand "accord" or "courtesy" if you fell over them. Love your response to me...so nicely telling about your level of discourse if push comes to shove...Joe hit the nail right on the head with "got hypocrisy?"

oh I get it now, the kids were forced to come here illegally so there for they should pay less for education than other peoples kids? how about we force them to go back ?

How many "news outlets" will report on the big story of the day?
2000 Americans killed in Afghanistan.
That was a huge news story on every "news outlet" when that number was hit in Iraq under Bush. The lack of reporting this time will prove the liberal bias of the press.

who ever wrote "Steve seems to disregard the law " I say "what law?" Laws are for every one else ...........and who ever siad my coment were "straw argument" to you I say phooey ! LOL WWII vets like my dad are the only reason you are free to say what you can say today.........

I think the disregarding the law was on the Speed camera thread.

america as we know it is no longer........... when we dont back our own troops

http://www.westernjournalism.com/americas-troops-betrayed/

ROTFLMAO From the publishers of World Nut Daily.........

Ah yes oh great FIFA...such an expert on levels of ignorance and pathetic boundaries!!

Apparently not in the way you suggest honey child. But, I must confess you acid tongue has mellowed just a little.

There you go again FIFA...in what way have you been insulted? Exactly was language are you referring to. Never have intended to "insult" you, but simply to respond to you as tastefully as possible, darling.

Me thinks you have forgotten who call who "pathetic and ignorant"....and so when I respond that you are simply lacking in knowledge..twas simply meant acknowledge your lack of knowledge, somewhat kinder than your rabid attacks dearie!! But, in the end, I agree totally with Buck. Have a really nice evening FIFI!

I have friends from Asian countries who had to have "sponsors" before they could even come over to the US. It took some people I know up to 8 years before they could come over here. Why are others given privileges while others need sponsors before they can come over here "legally"?

Tomorrow, Baltimore County Community College will host an event which is designed to help get the word out about the DREAM Act. In order to provide a balanced forum for those in attendance, certain members of the Baltimore County GOP asked to be included on the panel, and their request was denied. So, the event goes forward with only the "guest speaker" from progressive activist and special interest group CASA de Maryland.

In my humble opinion, while it is totally appropriate for our institutions of higher learning to be places where ideas can flow openly, and while it is wholly appropriate for diverse views to speak freely, it is wholly inappropriate if agents of our government are using public resources to impose upon a ballot initiative at election time. Beyond being ethically challenged, it may even be criminal.

Even if the organizers are not affiliated with CCBC but are merely creating the image of affiliation in order to drum attendance, I hope they will realize the shame in their misdeeds, and I hope that CCBC will realize the inappropriateness of their involvement and move to either alter or cancel the event accordingly.

Regardless of the details, I am against any new law that makes Maryland even more attractive to illegal aliens than it already is. The burden to our financial infrastructure is too great. Look what this burden has done to California. If Maryland continues with this "sanctuary state" nonsense, we will suffer the same fate.

"Ms. Sandra L. Kurtinitis, President Community College of Baltimore County
Dear President Kurtinitis,
I am the director of Help Save Maryland (HSM), a state-wide, multi-ethnic, volunteer, non-profit 501c3 organization which focuses on education and outreach regarding the costs of illegal immigration to our state. HSM has been very active with respect to the “MD Dream Act” which was passed last year by our elected officials in Annapolis, providing facts and figures on the financial and social costs of the Act to various audiences state-wide. This is important so that potential voters can hear both sides of the In-State Tuition issue and make an educated choice November 6 on Ballot Referendum #4.
I have recently become aware of the two CCBC Dream Act events on October 2 in Essex and Catonville, but am puzzled why CCBC students are only being exposed to the pro-Dream Act position espoused by the ethnic-centric organization Casa of Maryland. For a respected institution of higher learning, this clearly sends a negative signal to the taxpayers of Baltimore County as it highlights the seemingly close-minded and exclusionary stance taken by a number of your on-campus CCBC organizations.

Welcome to Maryland TESOL!
http://mtesol.memberclicks.net/

Teachers or union activists?

"Come Support the Dream Act

Do you want to join other Maryland TESOL members this Monday to support the Dream Act. Email Erin Sullivan at erincsullivan@yahoo.com if you plan to attend.

Friends,

Are you a TEACHER, MENTOR, or SERVICE PROVIDER?

Do you work with young people who might benefit from the MARYLAND DREAM ACT?

Do you believe in promoting access to education for ALL Maryland students and taxpayers?

If you answered YES, then CASA de Maryland and the Educating Maryland Kids campaign need your help to DEFEND THE MD DREAM ACT!

With less than 6 months before the Maryland DREAM Act will be up for statewide referendum, your voice could be critical in reaching out to voters to give them the critical information they need to support the MD DREAM Act. How can you help? JOIN US for a

Training for teachers and advocates on MESSAGING and STRATEGY to uphold the MD DREAM Act on MONDAY, June 4th from 5:30-8pm at

CASA de Maryland , 2224 E Fayette Street, Baltimore, MD, 21231."

Why in the World would she allow a known NAtivist Hate Group on Campus to speak at an event?

I hope the Dream Act promoters have paid a rental fee to CCBC. Because they refused to allow another opinion, it's not a community service program. This is a unilateral attempt to garner support for the Dream Act bill, a political action. We already know what CASA's goals are. I'm surprised they are still allowed to perpetrate their deceitful practices.

If, in fact, this event is going to take place at CCBC, and a balanced forum is lacking, perhaps it is simply an oversight on the part of the CCBC administration.

The League of Women Voters is holding a public forum to discuss the DREAM Act and Same Sex Marriage at Morgan State on the 9th.

http://baltcity1.lwvmd.org/n/sites/default/files/LWVBC%20Oct%209%20forum%20-%20revised.pdf

"Obama USDA met 30 times with Mexican gov’t to promote food-stamp use among Mexican immigrants"
"Department of Agriculture personnel in the Obama administration have met with Mexican Government officials dozens of times since the president took office to promote nutrition assistance programs — notably food stamps — among Mexican Americans, Mexican nationals and migrant communities in America.

Writing in response to Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions’ July request for information about the USDA’s little known partnership with the Mexican government to educate citizen and noncitizen immigrants from Mexico about the availability of food stamps and other nutrition assistance programs, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack defended the partnership as a way to curb hunger in America — and the continuation of a program formed under the Bush administration in 2004.

“The Mexico-U.S. Partnership for Nutrition Assistance Initiative is just one of a wide range of USDA partnership activities intended to promote awareness of nutrition assistance among those who need benefits and meet all program requirements under current law.” Vilsack wrote to Sessions in a letter obtained by The Daily Caller. (RELATED: USDA uses Spanish soap operas to push food stamps among non-citizens, citizens)"

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/obama-usda-met-30-times-with-mexican-govt-to-promote-food-stamp-use-among-mexican-immigrants/#ixzz283aX4u5W

What do Food Stamps have to do with the DREAM Act.? Undocumented immigrants are ineligible tor food stamps and documented immigrants can't get them for the first 5 years they are here.

Illegal Alien Mass Voter Fraud Discovered in FL...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaUsT9MLMlA&feature=player_embedded

"SACRAMENTO — Gov. Jerry Brown signed a new law that will allow hundreds of thousands of young illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses and vetoed another that would have restricted sheriffs from helping federal authorities detain undocumented Californians for potential deportation."

Next is Motor Voter application and then the vote on 11-6.

of course Joe...that is what it is all about, isn't it? I think one might aptly look at it as a kinda destructive political process from within. I am sure any number of our enemies abroad see it as a long slow decline and they happily await the results with open arms. But then again, I might just be off the wall on this one....mmmmm, but i don't really think so!!

Ha, ha, ha Joe....can't wait to see Steve's response on this one.

Steve, watch this Univision report on Fast and Furious. Covering what the LSM in America, save Fox and CBS, will not cover.

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2012/09/univision-video-fast-and-furious-scandal.html

Univision report connects Operation Fast and Furious scandal to murders of Mexican teenagers.
"“Near midnight, the assassins, later identified as hired guns for the Mexican cartel La Linea, broke into a one-story house and opened fire on a gathering of nearly 60 teenagers. Outside, lookouts gunned down a screaming neighbor and several students who had managed to escape. Fourteen young men and women were killed, and 12 more were wounded before the hit men finally fled.”

Citing a Mexican Army document it obtained and published, Univision reported that “[t]hree of the high caliber weapons fired that night in Villas de Salvarcar were linked to a gun tracing operation run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).”

That operation was Fast and Furious.

The “massacre,” as Univision described it, was not the only bombshell the network unveiled in its Sunday evening report.

“Univision News identified a total of 57 more previously unreported firearms that were bought by straw purchasers monitored by ATF during Operation Fast and Furious, and then recovered in Mexico in sites related to murders, kidnappings, and at least one other massacre,” the Univision report reads."

But all this death and mayhem is "nothing" to you.

While the State Department under Hillary Clinton disenfranchises the MILITARY!
http://mvpproject.org/in-the-news/va-military-absentee-ballots-going-awol-in-2012/

FREDERICKSBURG — A 92 percent drop in absentee-ballot requests by military personnel in Virginia is raising concerns that the Pentagon is failing to carry out a federal voting law.

With only 1,746 military voters in Virginia requesting absentee ballots so far this year — out of 126,251 service members in the state —the Military Voter Protection Project says the system has broken down.

And it’s not just in the Old Dominion. MVPP Executive Director Eric Eversole reports significant declines in absentee-ballot requests by service members across the nation.

Compiling data from Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Illinois, Ohio, Alaska, Colorado and Nevada, Eversole’s organization found that military families have requested 55,510 absentee ballots so far this year. That’s a sharp decline from the 166,252 sought in those states in 2008.

Hilary Clinton is Secretary of State not Secretary of Defense.

Joe is just pulling his typical antics by trying to post as much worthless crap as he can to try and deflect from the subject at hand. It's kind like a kid sticking his fingers in his ears and stomping his feet.

Non-Citizens on Food Stamps Quadrupled Since 2001.
"A new chart put together by the minority side of the Senate Budget Committee finds that, since 2001, the "number of non-citizens on food stamps quadrupled." Here's the chart detailing the growth in regards to non-citizens:
In 2001, according to data obtained by the United States Department of Agriculture, about 425,000 non-citizens were on the food stamp rolls. In 2003, that number increased to 519,000, in 2006 it was 795,000, and in 2009, when President Obama took office, it was 994,000.

Now, in 2012, it's estimated that 1,634,000 non-citizens are on food stamps. That means, since President Obama took office, the non-citizenson food stamps has nearly doubled.

" The 1996 welfare reform law significantly restricted food stamp eligibility for non-citizen immigrants. However, the 2002 farm bill reversed this policy, restoring eligibility and making the enrollment of non-citizen immigrants a high priority," the Senate Budget Committee explains. "Beginning in 2004, the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the U.S. Department of State, and the Mexican government began an ongoing partnership to increase enrollment in food stamps, and other USDA nutrition welfare programs, to eligible Mexican Americans and Mexican nationals living and working in the United States. Today, the USDA’s Food and Nutrition Service website highlights that outreach is provided through 50 Mexican consulates in the U.S."

Ah yes Steve..and so according to you if one is "right" of center one most certainly must be a "nutjob"..but, if one is left of center what then, a "fruit cake?" Just wondering how you see yourself in the plain light of day.

Pretty sure that Joe has thoroughly snuffed both Steve and Fifa on this thread....they hate it when they are proven to be wrong all the time.....comments that take pattern are very revealing....great work Joe!!

He hasn't proven me wrong on one post. Try again.

And Stevereeno says: "Hey Lorna, Here's to you and the rest of the Old Bitter White Lady Club" Oh I love it when you speak in your native tongue of racist,bigotry against old, white and women. Would not want you to leave any folks out along the way. Wow what a cool character you are, honey child!! Did you fall out of your crib on to your head or out of your high chair at a young age, darling? Tell us where it hurts, honey child!!!

Buck struggles as a $10/hr nail pounder.

I'd rather hire a immigrant artisan.