.

Pub Owner: Shellenberger Who?

Owner of Favorites Pub calls letter from the Baltimore County State's Attorney "preposterous" and "audacious."

Jeffery Evans, owner of Favorites Pub, had never heard of Baltimore County State’s Attorney Scott Shellenberger before Tuesday afternoon.

Evans was also unaware that Shellenberger sent a letter to the Baltimore City Liquor License Board portraying his bar as something out of the movie Animal House earlier this month.

The letter, sent to liquor board Chairman Stephan Fogleman, portrayed the bar as a danger to students' health.

"First and foremost, we are concerned for the health and safety of our students. In one week, from January 31 to February 3, 2011, Towson University transported three students to local hospitals because of alcohol poisoning. All three students were transported after returning from a night of heavy drinking at Favorites Pub," Shellenberger wrote.

Evans objected to assertions that his bar, located in the 5800 block of York Road, is a problem. He said Shellenberger sending the letter to the liquor board was “preposterous” and “audacious.”

Evans argued that he hasn't been in trouble with the city liquor board. Shellenberger’s claims that the pub has served underage drinkers are unsubstantiated and false, he said.

But Shellenberger’s letter paints a completely different picture of the pub.

“… Loyola and Towson University expressed concern about the increase in the number of students cited for alcohol violations and/or transported to area hospitals due to alcohol poisoning.  Of particular concern for both institutions is an increase in the number of underage students self-reporting heavy, high-risk drinking at Favorites Pub,” Shellenberger wrote.

Samuel Daniels, the city liquor board's executive secretary, said the letter sent by Shellenberger is a "rhetorical letter" that can not be used as evidence of Favorites Pub doing anything wrong.

"I think that all we can do is to indicate that it's an establishment under investigation, and will continue to be under investigation," Daniels said.

Daniels said the liquor board has tried to catch the pub selling to minors in the past using "sting" operations, but has been unsuccessful.

Towson University officials could not be reached for comment.

Joan Flynn, assistant vice president of administration at Loyola University, backed up the portrayal of the bar in Shellenberger’s letter.

She said the university continues to see problems with Favorites Pub serving too much and serving underage students.

“We see it as a considerable and continuing problem,” Flynn said.

Baltimore City Councilman Bill Henry, D-District 4, said he's aware of neighbors' and nearby universities' concerns about the bar.

Surrounding communities declined to challenge the bar’s liquor license during this year’s renewal process, Henry said.

“There was not the feeling we had the depth and breadth of evidence to take before the liquor board,” Henry said.

Buzz Beeler May 13, 2011 at 09:24 PM
This issue is at the core of a series of concerns from community leaders regarding these types of liquor establishments. Talk to some of the community leaders and they will tell you how alcohol and those who consume (gallons) it impacts their neighborhoods. One way to deal with this issue is for our legislators to adopt the DRAMSHOP law. http://www.marininstitute.org/alcohol_policy/dramshop.htm We all know how lobbyist work in the halls (crevices) of Annapolis so it would appear that any attempt to limit the amount of alcohol sold would be slim to none. I have seen bars and nightclubs literally destroy, not only lives, but the tranquility of those who live around them. The negative impact of these establishments has a long reach. Owners of these bars harmonize well together in singing the same old tune, that their businesses and the jobs they provide are vital to the community. Evidence such as this only proves my point that the bottom line, is the bottom line, i.e. money. Drinks in these bars are not cheap and as long as your money is on the bar, the bottom line rises above the bodies that lay beneath it. As to the issue of "Shellenberger Who?", I would suggest that Scott gets up close and personal with these owners and give them the BUSINESS!
Jerry Bossman June 03, 2011 at 09:11 PM
@Buzz Beeler I would imagine that the neighbors on the block of york rd that Favorites is located have a lot of other things to worry about other than a busy bar. For example all the homeless crack heads wondering around and mugging people. Just a thought though. My comment on the article: As an of age Loyola student the underage kids from Towson probably came on an 18+ night and pregamed and smuggled stuff in. The bartenders are responsible and only serve the patrons with the 21+ wristbands. Stop trying to blame the people who are doing the right thing and blame the students who will do anything to get around the rule. And as far as Shellenberger who?, the bar is located in Baltimore City not County so that is understandable. Don't you guys have some bars in your county you should be dealing with before you cross over and accuse Jeff. Take a look at Dickies, B Lounge, etc. you got plenty going on.
Buzz Beeler June 04, 2011 at 02:40 PM
Jerry, I was speaking in terms of generalization. I'm sure Jeff has the best intentions, but I was focusing on the larger picture. You and I both know how volatile the situation can get when you mix alcohol and idiots. I dealt with many of these issues in my career and saw the carnage, and often times liquor establishments had noting to do with the problem. Alcohol is by far the worst drug to impact the humane experience in regards to a wide range of factors. Dram Shop will serve a warning to those individuals, who unlike Jeff, care only about the bottom line. I spent a large portion of my adult life in night clubs even after I quit drinking in 1972. You have a completely different perspective when observing situations without the impairment blurring your vision. I would guess that if most people were acting in a responsible manor when it comes to the consumption of alcohol, you and I might very well be talking about other important issues like the economy. One of the biggest health threats among the age group in question is binge drinking.
Nic Cage June 06, 2011 at 03:59 PM
Once they sold me 100 beers. Exactly 100.
Concerned alum June 06, 2011 at 05:05 PM
3 Towson students were sent to the hospital... No one is questioning the character of Towson students? As far as the Loyola administrator is concerned, she can question the management of Favorite's, but the reality is that if one "college" bar is closed, another will be right behind to capitalize on the business opportunity. Let's look at the big picture people - it sure looks like Towson administration needs to be a little stricter with its students and Baltimore city officials need to worry about cleaning up the drug sales/usage on York Rd. before worrying about college age adults drinking
Buzz Beeler June 06, 2011 at 05:25 PM
Binge drinking among college students is becoming a major health concern. http://www.cspinet.org/booze/collfact1.htm Basically, most of the comments on this topic are correct in that there are multiple issues that must be addressed. Government officials along with representatives from TU should begin to look at the issues that they can identify and address. The other issues such as crime, drugs is, and should be a priority of law enforcement. Until there is acute accountability regarding the University, bars, parents, criminals, law enforcement. the courts and students, there will be little if any progress in many of these ongoing issues.
woody June 06, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Dear Buzz Lightyear, Drinking is fun. Just because you aren't cool enough to get into Craig's doesn't mean you should try to shut the place down. Don't hate the playa...hate the game. To infinity and beyond. Your Pal, Woody
Bryan P. Sears June 07, 2011 at 12:30 AM
A comment from user @town was removed because it violates the terms of use prohibiting offensive posts. You can review the terms of use at http://towson.patch.com/terms
Bryan P. Sears June 07, 2011 at 12:31 AM
A comment from user @town was removed because it violates the terms of use prohibiting obscenity . You can review the terms of use at http://towson.patch.com/terms
Buzz Beeler June 07, 2011 at 01:01 AM
Woody, I think you can do better on your first comment on Patch. Its amazing to me that he ones who write the most vitriolic comments only have a first name and it also happens to be their first post. At my age cool is based on the temperature not on intelligence. "Don't hate the playa...hate the game.", maybe you should tell your buddy @town about your words of wisdom. He claims to be a recent graduate but after reading his poorly written rant there are two questions, what school is her referring to and what grade did he pass.
Buzz Killington June 07, 2011 at 05:48 AM
It is completely laughable that local politicians and people like Mr. Beeler are concerned with what college students do in college bars on York Road. As someone who has lived in the neighborhood (Nicoll Ave), I was far more worried about the fatal drug shootings that happened 2 blocks from my house and the countless muggings that go down on York Road on a nightly basis. These type of things affect a person's quality of life much more than college kids getting blasted in a bar and being loud when they walk home. "Government officials along with representatives from TU should begin to look at the issues that they can identify and address. The other issues such as crime, drugs is, and should be a priority of law enforcement.." If I am not mistaken, the law is that you cannot purchase alcohol at an establishment in Baltimore City, or the state of Maryland for that matter, if you are under the age of 21. So it is something that is the responsibility of the BCPD. And as someone who has been in those bars, the Baltimore City police do not make it a point to raid the bars and start writing kids tickets. However, just because the police ignore what goes in said bars, it does not give the colleges or local politicians the right to try to shut them down. IT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S AND LIQUOR BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY, NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PEOPLE LIKE BUZZ BEELER OR COLLEGE ADMINISTRATORS!
Buzz Killington June 07, 2011 at 06:02 AM
Also Mr. Beeler, I ask if you are familiar with the Amethyst Initiative. If not, I implore you to research it. When you do, you will learn why our country has problems regarding binge drinking that other countries with more reasonable and less archaic alcohol related laws and statutes do not have. I personally see your belief that laws like DRAMSHOP will help eradicate binge drinking as completely misguided. Binge drinking is a problem because of our archaic laws; more laws will not get rid of it. If American adolescents grew up in a culture like most European cultures where alcohol is something that is in their lives from an earlier age, they would learn to use it with more discretion and moderation, and you would not be hearing about hospital visits and car accidents as much. For those interested in the Amethyst Initiative, here is a link to their website: http://www.amethystinitiative.org/statement/
Buzz Killington June 07, 2011 at 06:23 AM
And lastly, Mr. Beeler, I have noticed from your website that you reside in Dundalk, which is is not only not in North Baltimore, but is also not even in Baltimore City proper. So what frame of reference do you actually have in this particular case (unless you frequent the Govans or Lake Evesham neighborhoods). The way I see it, as "a lifelong county resident," you have none. To quote Walter Sobchak from the Big Lebowski, "you are like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know whats going on."
Buzz Beeler June 07, 2011 at 04:57 PM
Mr. Killington, If you are going to challenge me on the facts then get them straight. If you read the site you claim you visited they you would know. First, I am not a politician. I am a retired county cop with 39 years, a good number of them spent in Towson. My family move there in 1954. Recently Patch starting hosting my blog. As for my knowledge of alcohol, I was in charge of the CTAU (alcohol unit) for almost 20 years. I was trained as an expert by Northwestern University. I was also recognized as an expert witness by the courts. I spent most of my adult life in bars and nightclubs. You spoke of drug violence and shootings. What do you think alcohol is --- soda pop? http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/abuse/a/blniaaa040303.htm Alcoholism is a disease, one of the worst that impacts this nation. http://www.medicinenet.com/alcohol_abuse_and_alcoholism/article.htm It is the concern of any responsible citizen to address issues that impact their communities. There are plenty of bars in Dundak. Talk to any city cop and they will tell you what they have to deal with in relationship to bars in their district. If you worked the midnight shift you spent a great deal of time resolving these issues. As to your following quote, ""you are like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know whats going on.", while you were fast asleep at night who do think was handling the fatal crashes on the roadways?
Buzz Beeler June 07, 2011 at 05:06 PM
@town, you claim to be a college graduate, I would be interested from what college did you graduate from? Where did you learn how to write a comprehensive post that followed some sort of grammar? You claim to have been "stoned" while composing it, and your proud of that? From your rants I would guess you have already crashed and burned. You don't have a clue as to how people will receive comments like that. You do yourself no favors by displaying what ever it is you are on.
Broyal Farms June 07, 2011 at 08:39 PM
The colleges should be happy we're going to Craig's, and not a bar in an even sketchier part of town (like Kolpers). Shut it down if you want, but don't be surprised when 3 students hospitalized for alcohol poisoning turn into a dozen students mowed down in a west baltimore drive-by. The fact is, there's nothing you can do to stop us from drinking, and drinking a lot. What colleges and cops can do is ensure that we're not in a bad part of town while we're doing it. I see a lot of cops doing this already, patrolling the areas near college bars to keep them safe, but not going in. Nice to know some people have their priorities straight. Buzz, stop copy-pasting comebacks from the DARE website. We're bros, not lower life forms like yourself who are susceptible to alcoholism. Educate yourself: http://www.broslikethissite.com/2010/06/124-not-being-alcoholics.html
Buzz Beeler June 08, 2011 at 01:36 AM
Broyal, your first post on Patch and already you're an expert. Tell you what, you find one comment where I referred to DARE? Come on, you made the statement, I'm sure with your great intellect you claim to have all the answers. What you do with your life is your business. "Educate yourself:", not from someone with your outlook. I'm proud that I have not had a drink since 1972. I would bet you're well on your way down a dead end street. I'll match my record with someone like you anytime. Do you think its cool to brag about students hospitalized for alcohol poisoning and such statements as "and drinking a lot," ? There is nothing I could do or would want to do for someone like you. You have chosen to make your own choice, good or bad. As to life forms what form is a Broyal Farms?
Buzz Beeler June 08, 2011 at 03:41 AM
Google my name and you will find out all you need to know. I don't think I would find to much searching @town. Can't you come up with something other than Charlie's line that is old news by now. You really believe what you wrote is pretty good? Do you know what a paragraph is? Do you know how many spaces go after a period? You hide behind a pseudonym and you can say your superman. You resigned to take a better job? What job? What's the name of the firm? What's the name of the business school? I would guess your a young and well on you way to being burned out before you start. No one that I know in the business world or the movie business would give you the time of day until you grow up. http://www.buzzbeeler.com/photo?func=detail&id=53
Buzz Beeler June 08, 2011 at 04:00 AM
What I don't understand, is on the one hand you want to be respected with your description of your job, school and so forth and on the other, you brag about smoking since the 7th grade. Maybe you should look at the most recent studies on your favorite drugs, because whatever your on you wouldn't last one day at Goldman Sachs or any other firm for that matter. If you were as smart as you claim I seriously doubt you would be as unstable as your writing indicates. I don't know you and can't judge you, but you are putting your writing out there and that is what I'm responding to. I think you last sentence tells me your not quite sure of your direction. I've been there and done that. It gets you nowhere. The suits don't like people on the edge of reality. It does not fit in their bottom line. What you do is your business. You can't solve the problems of the world in these little blocks.
Buzz Killington June 08, 2011 at 06:52 AM
"It is the concern of any responsible citizen to address issues that impact their communities. There are plenty of bars in Dundak." - nice spelling If this is the case, then why don't you post on a site that deals with issues relating to Dundalk? Dundalk is not a part of North Baltimore (as demarcated by the council and police districts), nor is it even part of Baltimore City. Hence, you are not a member of the North Baltimore community, and have no real right to be commenting on issues involving our community. The fact that you used to patrol in Towson does not make you a citizen of North Baltimore. Also, I never said you were a politician ("local politicians and people like Mr. Beeler"). For someone that touts himself as educated, you don't have a solid knowledge of sentence structure. I do not dispute your statement that alcoholism is a disease. It most certainly is. However, more archaic laws and statutes are part of the problem, not the solution. People are always going to drink (How did Prohibition end up, Buzz?). They will also always drive while impaired by alcohol, no matter how stiff the penalties are. Alcohol related problems in this country are rooted at the cultural level. As @town said, European cultures are much more accepting of alcohol, and they do not have the same alcohol-related problems we have in America. Lastly, equating alcohol and its related problems with drugs and violence is laughable. If you don't believe me, come live in my neighborhood.
Buzz Beeler June 08, 2011 at 05:58 PM
Mr. Killington, yes I make typos and if your are going to criticize my grammar then you need to polish up on your punctuation. As per your quote, "Buzz?)." What is a question mark, parentheses followed by a period suppose to indicate? The period does not go after the parentheses, it goes in front of of it. If you are quoting a statement I made, and I made no such statement, then your punctuation would go after the quotation marks. http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/577/01/ http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/parentheses.htm As per your following quote, "Lastly, equating alcohol and its related problems with drugs and violence is laughable.", I would submit the following news account where the evidence introduced was that both suspect and victim were under the influence. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bd-md-ci-tshamba-trial-day4-20110607,0,5315133.story Did you know that in many of the NFL stadiums there are police sub-stations set up to deal with the drunk and rowdy crowds? Your following quote and advice, "Hence, you are not a member of the North Baltimore community, and have no real right to be commenting on issues involving our community." If I follow your logic as to confining my comments and concerns to Dundalk, what about national issues such as the economy, the wars, foreign affairs, our trade deficit, the stock market, environmental concerns, and immigration, just to name a few?
Buzz Beeler June 08, 2011 at 08:16 PM
Mr. Killington, I thought you might like to read this report from the WHO. http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/violence/world_report/factsheets/fs_youth.pdf There is also the continuing story in the Sun on this murder case involving the off duty officer and the former Marine. Alcohol was one of the main contributing factors in that case. This is the current situation in Europe as it applies to alcohol. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7093143.stm Based on your writing I don't understand why you would use @town as a reliable source of information. I would guess that you are more mature and intelligent than that. You don't have to live in a specific area of town to either have experience or experience a particular situation. If that were the case our vision of the world in which we live would be very limited. Do you think that bragging about some of the issues @town wrote about was a good thing?
Buzz Killington June 09, 2011 at 12:17 AM
My main point about you living in Dundalk is you don't live in the neighborhoods around these bars so you don't have right to be commenting on it. This happens to be a neighborhood-specific issue, not a state one, nor a national one. Your views on alcohol have a right to be heard, just not in this specific North Baltimore forum. Sure, alcohol can and is a contributing factor in many crimes, but it is never the only one. People do not murder other people solely because they are drunk. There are myriad other factors and circumstances in every instance of crime. Your view on alcohol is utter teetotalism, which makes it impossible to have a moderate discussion with you. I didn't use @town for information or brag about those issues raised by him. I said that I agreed with his point, and that comes my experience living in The Hague and visiting many European countries and cities. But you are too narrow and simple minded to realize that. And last time I checked, the year is 2011, so citing an article published in 2007 does nothing to describe the current situation in Europe. Not to mention that the article notes that several of those countries do not have a large binge drinking problem (Spain, Italy), especially when compared to the US.
Buzz Killington June 09, 2011 at 12:34 AM
A couple more bones to pick. 1. It seems to this humble reader that your style of debate and discussion is highly unorganized. You string together multiple thoughts that have no coherent connection and use random, outdated articles (the WHO report is from 2006) to back up your points. The Internet, while probably the best invention of our lifetimes, is a terrible thing, because it empowers people like yourself. 2. Yes, I knew that most NFL (and MLB, NBA, and NHL) have police substations. But they are not solely there to deal with drunks. One again your, "Alcohol is the devil!" viewpoint trumps all. Also, what do NFL stadiums have to do with anything we were discussing? NOTHING! 3. When you decide to criticize my punctuation, you better make sure you are right first. http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/parentheses.html "However, if the material inside the parenthesis requires a concluding punctuation mark like an exclamation point or question mark (but not a period!), that mark is placed inside the closing mark even though another mark is outside it. This latter sort of thing is awkward, however, and best avoided if you can help it."
Buzz Beeler June 09, 2011 at 02:41 AM
You wouldn't by chance be the former Proud to be Liberal, would you? You both have similar writing styles? You attribute numerous comments to me that I never made like "Alcohol is the devil!". I never said that. As far as the WHO report from 2007, are you suggesting its validity is invalid. I don't see a link to support your thesis. There are 22 million links to this topic and I think you might be hard pressed to find one that supports the heavy consumption of alcohol. While you claim that I have no right to discuss your neighborhood, you seem to use the Dundalk word quite often. Your own quotes derail your stance as per the following comment, "do not have a large binge drinking problem (Spain, Italy), especially when compared to the US." You answered you own question. I'm not going to play tit-for-tat on grammar issues. Its embarrassing and childish.
BAMA June 09, 2011 at 03:40 AM
I hate liberals and I love beer. WP to that. Roll Tide
BAMA June 09, 2011 at 03:41 AM
also Buzz, please tell me you made that website?
Buzz Beeler June 09, 2011 at 05:18 AM
Bama, I'm not that bright or the other depending on you leaning. I keep meaning to have my tech change it. BELIEVE IT, OR NOT! He got some calls from people who wanted something similar, except for the pic that is.

Boards

More »
Got a question? Something on your mind? Talk to your community, directly.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors.What's on your mind?What's on your mind?Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell somethingPost something